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December 08, 2009

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Randy Cox

Thank you for compiling that information. People seem to think credit is inevitable. Why? Credit and the inability to pay is what drives these bubbles and pops them.

I know it is too much to expect for our government to encourage paying down debt, but debt is the new slavery. People that owe are less free than those that do not.

Same is true with countries.

strainer

The US government has thrown around such a large amount of money at the problems that it has temporarily stabilized the economic system But this comes with a lot of consequences, and the current expansion of the money supply is not sustainable because it will severely damage the value of the dollar and create a significant inflation problem in a few years. That is why I feel gold is one of the best asset classes to invest in currently given its safe haven status and that it is denominated in dollars. And here is a very interesting article on these issues Canada Gold Investing 101 on the top left of the page, which analyzes the relationship between the dollar, the gold price, and gold mining companies as a result of the Federal Reserve's easy monetary policies. I thought it was especially helpful for investors to read to get a better sense of the dynamics between the various sectors of the financial markets to improve their investment knowledge.

Ken Brodeur

The year of Jubilee is upon us. Cancellation of all debt would wipe out the criminal element better known as the international bankers. Since all modern money is simply a ponzi scheme, printed out of thin air, let each nation print their own money, interest free and end debt slavery worldwide.
Spread the word, 400 oz gold bars found in China are simply gold plated tungsten steel! Let's round up the international bankers and exile them to the Isle of St. Helena and charge admission to see them.

Rick

Yes indeed, Revolution is the Solution!

Marc

Sorry, but this statistic seems to be completely screwed up. Is this some "USA, USA, USA, ... God bless America" thing?

Where's Luxembourg? I estimate that the ratio of GDP/dept for that country would excel Switzerland by about 10 times. Both are very small countries and both are popular banking places ... so, in my understanding, of course they both have huge liabilities.

Besides that, Switzerland, for example does export about 7% more of value than it imports every year. The US does import about 30 - 40% more of value than it exports. So, who is going to paying of its external debt at some time?

Kelly Thomas

To Marc:

This is external debt. It's hardly a "God Bless the USA" post, and nothing I have published in six years would indicate I am a fan of US economic, social or military policies. I left the US after Bush stole a second election.

Yes, Luxembourg has an external debt to GDP ratio of 4,910%, with GDP at $30.9 billion. Monaco has an external debt to GDP ratio of 1,890 %. However, these are small countries and thus their debt creates disproportionate ratios.

The title of the post includes "default is inevitable"and the body suggests that the debt will not be paid by taxpayers. We need to wipe the slate clean and get rid of the present banking system, perhaps switching to some form of Islamic-style banking (no usury), commodities based currency (and I don't think gold is the answer) and bartering. When the economies collapse and we create something new, the first rule must be that no one who was part of the old banking paradigm may work for the new system. They created this present mess. Be wary when they say they have the answers. All they want is control.

Marc

@Kelly Thomas

Sorry for that obious misunderstanding, it wasn't my intend to address that "God bless"-thing to your address, but to CNBC for this statistic.

To me, it seems that CNBC has manufactured some statistic that fits their agenda. Luxembourg and Monaco as the worst debtors of the world would make people suspicious, wouldn't it? So, why are they missing - just because they are small? Switzerland isn't that much bigger by the way (about 7 Mio. people).

I fully agree on your last paragraph. Especially, the US needs to get rid of this private FED - we don't have that here. Man, our banks are huge have much control over our country, but control over our money ... unthinkable.

The whole western world did live above its means for centuries (or even longer?) and sooner or later we must all learn to live within our means. And I personally think we wouldn't lose much - e.g. did you recently watch tv? There's not much I would miss.

Luke Carthright

The statistic is flawed because it aggregates government and private debt.

Switzerland has no government debt but it's major banks do. All banks have debts. The moment they accept a deposit they recognize a debt. But they also have liquid assets to match.

Sovereign governments instead don't have assets which can immediately be disposed to front debt committments. Sure, the Greeks could sell islands [as was proposed] and the US could sell Alaska back to the Russians. The US is in the unique situation of being exposed to foreign debt holders in its own domestic currency. So they could just print that. EU countries are in a more serious situation as no individual country has the right to print Euros, they have to go through the ECB.

White

I had thought that Japan and Iceland would be in this list.

swiss

The statistic shows only the liabilities, but not the assets. That means for example for Switzerland in 2008: gross liabilities of 419 %, but gross assets of 536% of the GDP.

Kelly Ann Thomas

Regarding Switzerland, yes their gross assets might be 536 percent of GDP, but the debt that takes up 419 percent of their GDP is external debt - not national debt. Even if Switzerland had no internal debt, their external debt to GDP is in excess of what both the IMF and World Bank is sustainable. It also means that each Swiss person must contribute in excess of $175,000 to pay off foreign creditors. Outside of Americans who seem to be floating in a pool of Prozac, I can't see any of these countries making good on their foreign debt. Too big to fail means nothing.

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